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Jack Qizard
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:02:45 -
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Greetings,
I'm looking for some thoughts on improving my Ishkur for PVP fighting in low sec.
Right now I'm flying with 2 other ships as support so i'm not alone.
My current ship was blown up today. Ishkur kill report
So I changed up the fitting a little because I was outran in my afterburner setup.
In that battle the ship turned around after 50km distance and hit me very hard taking me out in ~10 secs since I was alone.
Not sure what else I could do for that situation but I had been doing damage to him at a distance with my drones prior
to my explosion 
So I refitted with a microwarp but not sure if that is best? Along with my weapon setup.
HIGH SLOTS:
Light Ion Blaster II - Null S Ammo (falloff range 6km, optimal 3)
Light Ion Blaster II - Null S Ammo
Light Ion Blaster II - Null S Ammo
Small ghoul compact energy nosferatu
MID:
Balmer series compact tracking disrupter I
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
--Empty--
LOW:
Drone damage amplifier II
Energized Explosive Membrane I
Small Armor repairer II
Damage Control II
RIG:
Small capacitor control circuit
Small processor overclocking unit II
Drones:
Hobgoblin II, 5 of them.
CPU 29/212
Power Grid 0.9/52
Cap depletes with everything on in 25 secs
Seems like with the recent battle where I died I couldn't get in range because the afterburner and couldn't use the blasters.
Also my shield defense for EM is 0. Rest of the shield/armor hit points are nice.
Any thoughts on improving this ship? |
Jack Qizard
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Posted - 2015.12.14 02:25:44 -
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Sheeth Athonille:
Thanks for your help. Guess I will double think the mwd then 
I'll defiantly try out the sensor damper! Nice idea.
Good point on not fighting a Orthurs alone , haha 
ShahFluffers:
Thank you so much for your very detailed help. You really gave me some excellent insight. To bad its Sunday night, I'm itching to try all these thoughts out right now!! I will try those fitting outs and thanks for taking the time to write/share them. Glad the Ishkur is still a good ship to use.
Kethen T'val:
I think I learned my lesson on the Orthrus, I should run away!
Thanks for the feedback on the tracking disrupter. I'll keep that in mind. I'll also get rid of the cap rigs and try a rep rig instead.
Whats a SAAB? Couldn't find any info on it thru google.
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Jack Qizard
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Posted - 2015.12.15 02:26:45 -
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ShahFluffers, Thanks for the follow up post and answer to my question on SAAB.
Since you were so nice to offer up to fitting options I do have one more question on one of the fits or actually both I suppose.
What ship fitting would be better as a new PVP pilot if I'm on point? Mind you I've only been playing Eve for about 9 months and doing PVP for just a few weekends. Seems like to my naive eye that a Ishkur Brawler would be easier to master first and then the Kiter since kitting is another tactic in itself? |
Jack Qizard
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Posted - 2015.12.17 02:40:53 -
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Thanks for your help everyone
ShahFluffers wrote:
When you say "on point" do you mean you are performing tackle duty for a group or merely being aware?
I was thinking of tackling duty but I'm not to familiar with the whole idea yet, gotta do some more reading :)
ShahFluffers wrote:
Honestly... kiting and brawling both have aspects that make them easier and harder.
To brawl you will have to be a lot more careful about what you engage as once you commit... you are committed until the end of the battle. This can make it much easier for your opponent to dogpile you with his/her own teammates.
To kite you will have to be mindful of your speed versus the speed of other and get a good feel for orbiting and rage controls. It is easy to mess up and get caught, but if you play your cards right you can also more easily disengage from fights where the odds take a turn for the worst.
If you feel unsure of your abilities, try stepping down to a Tristan and experimenting with it. It is basically a faster but less beefy and damage-dealing version of the Ishkur.
I like the idea of kiting to escape if things turn south but I feel like chronologically I might try brawling still and then try kitting after I get more experience but now that I've said that I suppose I could go either way.
I actually used to fly the Tristan and liked it. When you mean I could experiment with it do you mean actual PVP practice or dualing with it?
I would think the Tristan would be popped quickly in a real PVP although helpful for learning and less costly I'd think running back to a station and refitting might get me upset as it usually does.
Thanks for the shout out to Ralph King-Griffin.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Ishkur thread shah, obviously iv been reading it.
LOL. Thanks for your help :)
Thanks for the wonderful links to the articles. got a lot of reading this weekend! :)
I started fitting up my ship last night and tonight. I'm having trouble locating the "Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I" is it no longer available?
Any reason to just use that or would another energy neutralizer work?
I also picked up a Halo Epsilon implant for slot 5 (-2%). I assuming I need a set to have more effect though.
Garrett Osinov wrote: So what I am saying, that you had 0 chances to survive. If he is good, then he could kill you and all you friends. Good point, 600dps is high for me. I'm glad he had a nice ship and it wasn't all my piloting ;) |
Jack Qizard
The Blazed Eye
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Posted - 2015.12.18 01:52:49 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Jack Qizard wrote:I was thinking of tackling duty but I'm not to familiar with the whole idea yet, gotta do some more reading :) If you want to perform tackling then a MWD is a must. Fit around that module (hint: fit around speed, then survivability, then damage).
Maybe a stupid question.... but tackling is the same as brawling correct? To me in order to brawl you'd have to come in close and hopefully hold your target there. I will probably try some dualing this weekend and might just break out the old Tristan.
I'll look into kiting tactics and hope to read Ralph King-Griffin articles this weekend also.
Thanks for all the additional info on the Tristan being strong with the right setup, the Halo implants and the Eve Fitting tool!
Cara Forelli,
Thanks for the heads up on the Neut info, and that Genesis isn't a good selection for PVP. Any tips on another location? |
Jack Qizard
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Posted - 2015.12.24 01:31:35 -
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Thanks everyone for your help. I've been trying out fits. Been a bit short on time since the holiday coming but I appreciate all your feedback. |
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